Moral Logic

I’m posting this under the topic of religion, because that’s where it fits. I’m going to bring up some social arguments, but please remember they are in the context of religion, not of society. If you do not share the following beliefs, then this thought exercise will be irrelevant to you:

Belief 1: God created the universe and everything in it.
Belief 2: God created right and wrong, and gave us guidelines in the Bible.
Belief 3: The Bible is the word of God.
Belief 4: God wishes all people to be saved and spend eternity in heaven.

As I said, if you do not hold the above beliefs, then the best you can do is look at this in a hypothetical way… like a logic puzzle.

Many people claim that they have various behaviors because of genetic predisposition. For instance, criminals often claim they are nuts, and therefore aren’t responsible for their actions. Gay people claim that they were that way from birth. Obese people claim they are predisposed to overeating. People who are promiscuous claim they are predisposed to be addicted to sex. Alcoholics claim that they have a gene which makes them more susceptible to alcohol addiction.

I would claim that all of the above statements are unilaterally false, based upon the 4 beliefs stated above.

If God created the universe and everything in it, and God outlined what is right and wrong in the Bible, and the Bible prohibits murder, homosexuality, gluttony, promiscuity, and alcoholism, AND God is perfect and wants everyone to spend eternity in heaven, THEN… God would not create a being that was biologically or mentally predisposed to an activity that was expressly forbidden.

If you believe the four statements, then you also believe it’s Nurture… not Nature.

Argument Number two:

Embryonic stem cell research should be illegal if you believe the four statements above. I speak not of stem cell research on adult stem cells, or on umbilical stem cells. Embryonic stem cell research requires the destruction of a human embryo.

If you believe the statements, then you also believe that God would never condone “the ends justifying the means” where human life was concerned. God would not create a universe where the only cure for one disease was the destruction of human life. If God is perfect, then there are cures for every disease, and none of the cures involve destruction of human life. We just haven’t found them yet.

That concludes today’s fun exercise.

  12 comments for “Moral Logic

  1. February 2, 2006 at 10:19 am

    Interesting. I agreed with your views, however, there was one area i got stuck at. “THEN… God would not create a being that was biologically or mentally predisposed to an activity that was expressly forbidden.” Being raised in a distant bible thumping family (too long to explain), I do know that most people who’s church is bible based (meaning it is the Word Of God himself)we are taught that God would in fact create us with these “predisposed” handicaps in order to overcome them by going into his arms for salvation and help. A Job complex so to speak. But, for what’s it worth, I do not agree with that in any way whatsoever simply because the bible cannot be “THE” word of God because it was written by interpre..oh never mind, it doesn’t matter. Just wanted to point out that itty bitty flaw in an otherwise stable arguement. It’s lame, i know. It’s simular to the arguement i get at any challenge from my Pastor grandfather which is a “The devil made me do it” mentality. Okay. I’m totally done now.

  2. February 2, 2006 at 10:19 am

    Wow. That was a long one eh?

  3. February 2, 2006 at 10:56 am

    I don’t know where I stand on all of that, but if doing all those things are evil (hence lessening one’s chances of going to heaven) why were we given the ability to think all of it up? If embryonic stem cell research = bad, why would He allow us to think of it?

    I dunno…

  4. February 2, 2006 at 11:16 am

    Well, the wrinkle in the whole system is that God also gave us free will. Bad things happen to good people because either they, or someone else, made a bad decision.

    I don’t believe God is uninvolved, but I do believe that he gave us free will for a reason, specifically… if we give God our love of our own free will, it is infinitely more valuable than if God forced people to do right and love Him.

  5. February 2, 2006 at 12:16 pm

    Incredipete, you may be interested to check out a free download called God’s Debris by Dilbert author, Scott Adams. Google “God’s Debris Free Download” and you’ll find it. I don’t know if linky-goodness works in your comments section so I won’t bother.

    Cheers,
    Cory AKA TX18366

  6. February 2, 2006 at 1:50 pm

    Thanks. Good call on the free download. I love Scott Adams and I enjoy “thought experiments.”

  7. February 2, 2006 at 2:59 pm

    Cool…glad you like it. Cheers

  8. RDC
    February 2, 2006 at 8:19 pm

    Hmm. Incredipete, do you believe that if there are already “excess” embryos, ie, from genetic screening, test-tube babies and the like, that they should have cells harvested? I understand that you may be morally opposed to this process anyway… ack… what I am trying to say is that as they exist, and are destroyed, should they be used, or is the use of such embryos further condoning (in your opinion) an act that shold be discontinued?
    As an aside, I feel that all cord blood should be banked.

  9. February 2, 2006 at 9:25 pm

    I believe that life begins at conception, thus once an egg is fertilized, it has all of the rights that any human being would have. The “fertility clinics” that fertilize extra eggs to increase the chances of pregnancy are treading in a very very grey area of ethics and morality…

    … in my humble opinion.

  10. February 3, 2006 at 12:13 pm

    Just testing the new comments system… nothing to see here… move along.

  11. Livieloo
    February 3, 2006 at 3:52 pm

    I agree … enough said.
    Liv

  12. Jodie
    February 4, 2006 at 8:14 pm

    Ok, so I read your theory. Aside from the obvious arguments I have with all of your statements (being that I think they are all religious hooey, but that’s your prerogative), I have just one question/comment: If it is supposedly nurture that causes homosexuality, alcoholism, etc…… perhaps you can find out when Mom held lesbian class and I blocked it out?
    You make me giggle. Thanks!

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