I’m Pro-Life & I’m Pro-Death Penalty

Well, yesterday’s entry sparked quite the debate. Abortion was just one topic covered in the entry, but it consumed the entire comments page. I’d like to summarize my points from the comments in case you missed it.

First of all, let’s get my opinion out there, without any beating around the bush. I believe abortion is wrong 100% of the time. I believe that life begins at conception, and science backs me up. Where we disagree is that it’s ok to kill it if it’s not viable (able to live outside of the mother). The age of viability becomes earlier and earlier with every advance in science. And you say “But Incredipete, if the baby can’t survive outside of the mother without medical support, than it isn’t viable.” To that, I would respond that if you have a two year old, and you stop going to the store and buying food for them, they are going to starve to death. They are not “viable” if your definition of “viable” involves “being able to survive on their own.”

I believe that the death penalty is perfectly justified, and it’s not at odds with my pro-life convictions.

A person who is convicted of taking someone’s life deserves to be executed. With regard to crime, I’m pro-victim. We get so concerned that we don’t trample the rights of the criminal, that we lose sight of the victim and the victim’s friends and family. It would be nice if we could go out and personally kill the person that killed our loved one. However, it probably wouldn’t be good to have people dishing out vigilante justice. That’s why we have a judicial system that protects people that haven’t yet had their day in court. Sometimes the courts protect the criminal instead of the victim. That’s not the point of courts.

The man that drove drunk for the 17th time, on a suspended license, broadsided my fiance’ and killed our unborn baby (And yes, at 8 months, she was definitely “viable”)… Was she a baby only because we wanted her? Or was she a baby because she was a baby? He killed a baby and ruined several people’s lives. Unfortunately, it’s not considered even manslaughter if you kill someone’s unborn baby. The man walked away after serving 60 days. That’s not justice.

George Bush tried to push through legislation called the “unborn victims of violence” act, which would have given the state the ability to prosecute that man for manslaughter, but the liberals in congress shot it down, because they feared it would be the beginning of the end for abortion.

20 years and then parole is not a fair punishment for someone that ended another’s life. The victim had their life taken, and the only fair retribution is to take their life. (And no, I’m not going to start quoting the Koran)

Saying “I would never have an abortion, but I think it’s a woman’s choice” is a cop out. That’s saying “I know it’s wrong, but I don’t want to step on any toes.” If it’s wrong, it’s wrong. The reason women agonize over the decision to abort is that deep down, they know they shouldn’t do it. If it was like having your gall bladder taken out, no one would agonize over the decision. You wouldn’t wake up in a cold sweat, crying on the anniversary of the procedure each year. They don’t have support groups for people that have had their gall bladder removed. Some may not see abortion as murder, but they know they shouldn’t do it. It’s called “conscience” and almost all of us got one.

And some people didn’t. Those are the people we execute. I hope.

  13 comments for “I’m Pro-Life & I’m Pro-Death Penalty

  1. November 30, -0001 at 12:00 am

    AUTHOR: Walker Coming in late in the game… you know how I feel about this, how it’s wrong on so many levels.

  2. November 30, -0001 at 12:00 am

    AUTHOR: mental Point taken. Can i just say how damn funny that hate mail is? Whoever wrote it gets points for creativity.

  3. November 30, -0001 at 12:00 am

    AUTHOR: Incredipete I don’t think you’re crazy, Mental. My view was reinforced in a drastic way by my own experiences, however, I was pro-life before it happened. My dad was a pro-life activist for many years, and I imagine influenced me very early. However, I wouldn’t say that my view is “colored”… Just reinforced.

  4. November 30, -0001 at 12:00 am

    AUTHOR: mental I’ll take this moment to give my condolences on your loss. Nothing is worse, in my opinion, than having someone’s life taken from you. So aside from opinions on what other issues your entry covered, nothing changes my heartfelt sympathy for your loss. Nothing. That said…it would appear as though your loss is fueling your arguement on abortion. I can see it as being inconceivable to you that someone would willfully give up something that was taken from you against your will. All I’m asking/pointing out is, could your view on this issue of abortion be colored because of this? And thanks for the debate issue…think i’ll ride that wave on my next entry.

  5. November 30, -0001 at 12:00 am

    AUTHOR: Incredipete Believe it or not, I have received hate mail from the website in my ACTUAL mailbox. Snail Mail. Three psychos actually took the time to locate my address so they could hate me in their own handwriting. Pretty scary actually.

  6. November 30, -0001 at 12:00 am

    AUTHOR: Incredipete Ah yes, the Gutless Unsigned post. I finally took my announcements down, and went back to my normal setup. I generally get about 5-10 hate mails from total strangers each week as a result of my web site. It makes me proud, and I know I must be doing my job if people are so irked that they take the time to write.

  7. November 30, -0001 at 12:00 am

    AUTHOR: Stacey In order to receive gutless unsigned mail, you have to have created an emotional reaction. Not a bad reaction for writing!!!

  8. November 30, -0001 at 12:00 am

    AUTHOR: Incredipete It’s a cop out because it’s a way of washing your hands of the issue. True, and point taken that it is them that will have to answer to God. I agree. But if it’s wrong, and it’s allowed by our laws, which are supposedly set by representatives that vote for our positions, then to say “Heck, let’s leave it legal and I just won’t do it myself” is illogical. If it’s morally wrong, we need to make it illegal. That way maybe we’ll be incidentally preventing some people from having that on their heads.

  9. November 30, -0001 at 12:00 am

    AUTHOR: warcrygirl I’m so sorry for your loss, Incredipete. I just can’t imagine the pain you two went through.

  10. November 30, -0001 at 12:00 am

    AUTHOR: Stacey All I know is I’ve never met you, don’t really think I will, don’t think we’re friends right now, and don’t think we necessarily will be. But, it makes me sick to my stomach and makes me tear up every time I think about you losing your child. I’m so very sorry that happened to you.

  11. November 30, -0001 at 12:00 am

    AUTHOR: Incredipete The coolest thing about the Pope is that awesome plastic tic tac container he rides around in. I’m so jealous. As far as his views on the death penalty, like I said yesterday, I’d happily give up the death penalty if it meant abortion would be made illegal.

  12. Wen
    November 30, -0001 at 12:00 am

    AUTHOR: Wen I was raised Catholic, and the Pope has a pretty strong view on killing people, be they unborn and innocent or adult and guilty as hell. No life is ours for the taking. I agree with him. I wish I could write more, but I have to get out of the house for work now. I’m sorry I’m going to miss the rest of this debate.

  13. November 30, -0001 at 12:00 am

    AUTHOR: Wendy Abortion is wrong! The end…

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